I-Banker Working Hard, Playing Hard, Inviting Ridicule
By BankersBall on Oct 15, 2006 in Clublife, Emails & Diversions, Famous Bankers, Lifestyle
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You would think with all of the Vayner mania, any sane banker/banker wannabe would try to stay out of the limelight. But no.
Codetv has a clip of one brave analyst, showing the world the joys of West Chelsea nightlife. (The screenshot of the vid above links to the site, I couldn’t get it to feed into this post)
Who: A.J., 23, financial analyst at a large investment bank (with friends Clayton, Tom, Tony and Rob), as well as two young ladies, going “wild” at Cain.
Choice quotes:
“Models and bottles.”
“The guys I roll with, I mean they’re the real deal. They work hard, they play hard, they have the money to play hard.”
“Party hard in style.”
On Oct 15, 2006, Anonymous said:
rolling up in a porsche at age 23? must be a trader…
On Oct 15, 2006, Anonymous said:
nice ride but boring night
On Oct 16, 2006, anony said:
I’ll bet a grand that AJ didn’t get laid that night.
On Oct 16, 2006, Anonymous said:
How short is that guy? And those girls, I wouldn’t kick em out of bed (honestly, I wouldn’t kick most women out of bed) but they ain’t that hot. Also, a Boxter doesn’t impress me.
On Oct 16, 2006, George said:
Really nice ride - think about it though, leaving a car parked in NYC - a Boxster will do just fine for that
On Oct 16, 2006, MT said:
What a tool. that guy makes us look bad.
On Oct 16, 2006, Anonymous said:
He clearly got bullied at school.
On Oct 16, 2006, George said:
@ MT -
I actually think he makes us look good…Kinda adds to the Wall-Street mystique…would be funny if a firm used it as a recruiting video, haha
On Oct 16, 2006, Jamie said:
Come on guys, we all work 100+ hours a week, most of us probably go out like he does (some of us far worse as I have witnessed) but we just aren’t on camera. There’s nothing on that segment that’s too crazy.
The kid’s livin it up, all the power to him… @ George - maybe we’ll get an influx of applicants from other industries?
On Oct 16, 2006, George said:
Yeah, hopefully some cute ones from the advertising industry
On Oct 16, 2006, Anonymous said:
Unbelievable.
On Oct 16, 2006, Jamie said:
Advertising women…indeed.
On Oct 16, 2006, Michelle said:
He is dorky and ugly. Obviously, one of the geeks in high school. The girls are ok, probably the best he can get
What happened to the good old days when analysts got whupped into shape?
On Oct 16, 2006, Tom said:
Bravo! At least he leaves his desk to go out with girls at night which is more than I can say compared to the hermits at my firm!!!!
On Oct 16, 2006, Jenny said:
Analysts whupped into shape? You’ll find those “analysts” in an ops role, haha. I think he’s a cutie, but looked a little buzzed at the end.
What’s FUNNY is I see the white chick at Pink Elephant all the time - sure can dance, but she forgets to wear much clothing.
On Oct 16, 2006, Anonymous said:
This doesn’t even come close to being as distasteful and anal as that Citigroup e-mail, or Mr. Hi-I’m-Yale.
I can’t believe you guys are so taken back by this dinky video, if there was a video of me and my friends we’d be hated for life
On Oct 16, 2006, Anonymous said:
You guys surely have better stuff to post than this?
On Oct 16, 2006, Todd said:
Bottles are the biggest rip-offs ever…healthy profit margin though
On Oct 16, 2006, Bud Fox said:
Lets set the record straight, this guy is a piker, I can’t believe that I wasted my time watching this garbage. But since I am here I must critique this video. A.J. if he was a real top dog, would be showing up in a Bentley or a Maybach driven by a chauffer. A.J. will be driving drunk in Manhattan, that’s like trading Nat Gas while smoking crack. Next, A.J. is much too enamored with the two models (yeah right! I want to short their agency pronto! When I think player I think of a guy that is trading Asia then and only then, screwing Asia. I guess that I am a little bit twisted but wanted to see someone who is making 10 million on his cellphone in the bathroom while telling the girls that he is busy. That’s a player. A.J. is player-lite.
On Oct 16, 2006, Giovanni Ribisi said:
Bentley, Maybach? That’s for 50-60 year old CEO’s, PMD’s or someone on the board…if he said he was older, then I’d expect a little more balling if you will, but at 23, presumably just out of undergrad - that’s pretty darn good. I think we’re forgetting that at 23 “player-lite” is fine. It’s like comparing apples to oranges.
About wasting time, yeah - this video is pointless. There’s nothing controversial (like ehemm a certain private banker, or a guy that can lift 500 lbs). This guy is having a good time, and so be it.
On Oct 16, 2006, Anonymous said:
If you call that partying hard then you are indeed a lame investment banker.
On Oct 16, 2006, Anonymous said:
I have a feeling there were things that couldn’t be shown in that segment…if that was me, I probably would have a bunch of crap cut out
On Oct 17, 2006, Hedge Hog said:
If he was anybody, he wouldn’t make a video. The difference between a Big Swinging Dick and some wannabe douchebag is that if you are a BSD, people know it. If you are a piker, you try to sell yourself too high, and most people can see right through it. And anyways, who the fuck cares that you go to Cain on Thursdays. Fuck you.
On Oct 17, 2006, Mario said:
Unless of course a bunch of people reading this blog show up on the new Entourage - Wall Street show, then it’d be, appropriately - fuck all of you.
I’m a Marquee on Thursday kinda guy - Cain is eh.
On Oct 17, 2006, Jamie said:
Word on the street is “Hedge Hog” doesn’t even work on the Street.
On Oct 17, 2006, Monica said:
This is kinda cool - does anyone know how I can get on Code to have them film me and my girls going out at Home?
On Oct 17, 2006, Hedge Hog said:
I don’t work on Wall Street, I’m too good for it. Fuck you.
On Oct 17, 2006, Bud Selig said:
Okay, now this thread is just wasting bandwidth and is becoming utterly stupid. The point is, he was on Code - this could be staged or not, and apparently some people like it, some people don’t.
I feel dumber just responding to this.
On Oct 17, 2006, Dylon....I spit hot fire! said:
Let’s clear a few things up:
1) This kid is one year out of school, so he obviously does not make that much money.
2) This kid has had that car for at least 5 or 6 years.
3) He gets his money from his parents.
How do I know this you ask? I went to college with the kid. Don’t get me wrong, he’s not the worst kid in the world. But he is clearly condescending and needs to be knocked down a peg or two.
On Oct 17, 2006, The Infamous said:
I refrained from commenting because I knew him closely from school (even worked on a project with him) but I’m going to play devil’s advocate:
About # 1 - his “analyst” job may not be his main driver of income, we don’t know that. There could be other sources, but Code.tv only played off that one job.
To rebuke #2 which is the most glaring mistake. If you look closely at the video (look at the headlights) - that’s the new Boxster which was released for model year 2005 he couldn’t have had that car for more than two years. Also, the wheels on the car weren’t even available five or six years ago on the Boxster.
# 3 - This is what you hear from HS kids when their daddy didn’t buy them a new BMW like the others. Easiest assumption in the world, and there’s no way we can know.
True, he is far from being the worst kid around, I can name hundreds at our school that were far worse. He’s smart, and gets ahead of himself sometimes but he’s done a lot of good things for a lot of people so I can’t knock him even though I want to sometimes.
On Oct 17, 2006, Anonymous said:
Infamous is right about the car
That’s at the earliest, an ‘05. I also noticed gray plastic underneath the headlights so it looks like an S. At least he didn’t cheap out and get a base Boxster that’s like 10K cheaper
On Oct 17, 2006, Ribs said:
AJ you are a doll!
On Oct 17, 2006, Bouts said:
He had a different Porsche in college, an older Boxster I think. I would know because I was one of the 3 he let drive around the parking lot in it. Nice ride. I wish I could have people questioning what kind of PORSCHE I bought. Tough life.
On Oct 17, 2006, Bouts said:
Who is the Infamous? Did a comment get removed?
On Oct 17, 2006, Anonymous said:
Shady.
On Oct 17, 2006, BankersBall said:
Hi guys — no comments ever get removed and all get published (even insulting ones) unless they are clearly spam.
On Oct 17, 2006, Anonymous said:
He was always a hard working guy, respectful too. I remember he DID always know how to have a good time. Good for him.
On Oct 17, 2006, Anonymous said:
This video is a bit of a shock to me, I never thought he was this extrovert. I always saw him talking to teachers outside of class…thought he was a big finance geek.
So much for judging a book by its cover
On Oct 17, 2006, Snowflake said:
IT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT SOME PLAYA HATAZ
I’ll take that whip over my Acura anyday
On Oct 17, 2006, anon said:
He’s an equity research analyst at BofA.
Car is rented.
He lives in jersey.
And what analyst for a decent iBank is not at work on a thursday night?
On Oct 17, 2006, Anonnie said:
Don’t you have to be 25 to rent?
Can I get a Porsche like that at Hertz?
Yeah, they must have filmed that really late - early in the night, should still be in the office
On Oct 17, 2006, Anne said:
ive seen him date much prettier girls than those skanks
but maybe thats the point of the clip
On Oct 17, 2006, Anonymous said:
haha GREAT call on the challenge
IMO this is different from Alexey/Lucy - looks like the kid is actually a nice guy who just happened to volunteer for a video
Anyone want to race me in my Prius?
im interested in seeing who the takers will be
On Oct 17, 2006, Omar said:
I work with him. He’s a real tool…
On Oct 17, 2006, Omar said:
But, I’d still have the sex with him.
On Oct 17, 2006, Omar said:
then eat him up and wash him down w/ a nice diet coke…
On Oct 17, 2006, Anonymous said:
Now I’d like to see THAT on Code.tv!!!
On Oct 17, 2006, e-diddy said:
wow that guy was a complet douchebag. his chicks weren’t that hot and he is full of sh*t. if he were an i-banking analyst he would be chained to his desk not rolling to clubs on a thursday night…
On Oct 17, 2006, Mah-nigs said:
maybe he took a vacation day - most firms do give 4 weeks
its funny how one video opens up a shitload of assumptions
i could take friday off during my firm’s roadshow and “ball” on Thursday night - i could unchain myself from my desk if i wanted to
On Oct 18, 2006, Anonymous said:
Where did he go to school that you all know him?
On Oct 18, 2006, yosh said:
loving it. a little b bat never hurt no one. models and bottles baby - got to live it up
On Oct 18, 2006, Toads said:
School of Hard Knocks like a true “baller”
haha
On Oct 18, 2006, Anonymous said:
Seriously, no harm is being done in anyway
Great entertainment, looking forward to seeing another one
On Oct 18, 2006, Anonymous said:
He should have brought one of his ex-gf’s, much hotter than either of those girls
On Oct 18, 2006, Admirer said:
This guy should have his own segment on Code.tv - far more entertaining than the other crap they do
On Oct 18, 2006, Damo said:
I’d love to know what bank these chuckle heads are at? I’m always strapped to my desk. And when I’m not, I’m jumping out of airplanes for therapy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTuoG_P5sNw
On Oct 18, 2006, Anonymous said:
I love him
On Oct 18, 2006, Jenna said:
I wanna bang him.
On Oct 18, 2006, Anonymous said:
Let’s get a TRILOGY going!
On Oct 19, 2006, i want to kick this guy's ass said:
haha what a dumb guido. No matter how much money these people have they never have style, they never have grace and they certainly don’t have an ounce of class. It’s too bad that these people have utterly ruined new york since they crawled out of their bensonhurst gutters in the late 60s.
I can’t really tell what he is from his picture, but his attitude is *pure* precious guido; the pretension that being a pushy asshole will make you successful gives it away. If he’s not a guido by birth, he’s one by choice, electing into their empty aphorisms and their particular mindless brand of materialism that asserts that price, shinyness and being remotely connected to italy are the most important qualities of any object.
On Oct 19, 2006, Omar said:
You retard… guidos are born Italian… get it right… Stop hatin on him. You don’t know the first thing about him and his nice hard ass…
On Oct 19, 2006, Anonymous said:
Italy? The only thing Italian is that suit!
I see plenty of style and class, not like this past comment.
On Oct 19, 2006, Guido said:
you know, wanting to kick people’s ass is a very guido thing to do….
On Oct 19, 2006, One of the girls in the Video said:
#1 - I’m not remotely a girlfriend I’m just a friend.
#2 - He’s a nice guy I went to school with, he may be a dork as we all are deep down, but he deserves for you to give him a break.
#3 - He bought the car himself, not his parents money.
#4 - I wish I could afford to do that.
#5 - I’m an accountant not a skank like you all seem to be fond of claiming.
#6 - I haven’t even seen it, I can’t believe this is getting so much hype, and I’m not sure I would have done it had I known it would, corporate america really is bored and online most of the work day.
#7 - yes I can dance. hehehe.
On Oct 19, 2006, Anonymous said:
I want more, I want more!!!
On Oct 19, 2006, AJ's Wife said:
Hi, I’m AJ’s wife. Yes, we live in a nice house, drive nice cars and go to nice places. Yes, we are young and we make a lot of money for our age, but we also work very hard at it. Our household income would blow your mind, and as long as my baby is bringing home the $$, he can have as many “models and bottles” as he wants… I am…
On Oct 20, 2006, Anonymous said:
Anyone who refers to himself as “a baller” is a total douchebag.
On Oct 20, 2006, Confused said:
“Thursday is the night we ball.”
Does this translate into “I am a baller” ?
I find it real funny that there are so many assumptions going into this clip but when you strip it down to basics it’s a guy going out to have fun (with girls, not like some firms where they go out with guys) and have a good time.
He’s arrogant, don’t know about the douchebag part. There are far, far worse people out there. Has anyone seen Goldman bankers? Yeah, I thought so.
On Oct 21, 2006, Converted AJ Disciple said:
This guy does not belong in a cubicle
Get him in front of a camera and keep him there
On Oct 21, 2006, ann ohnemus said:
asian chick is hot. a.j. is a tool…no self-respecting i-banking analyst at a decent bank would put himself out like that…too much to lose.
On Oct 22, 2006, Anonymous said:
This is the funny thing - he didn’t “put himself out”
We’re all getting caught up in the hype and not in the actual video itself
Looking at the clip, we would know nothing about him other than a very discreet “a.j.”
It’s the have-nots of the world (read:Gawker) that spend their time trying to find out taking down someone else rather than improving their own lives or doing something a little more respectable….
On Oct 24, 2006, joe said:
A BOXTER???? It’s not even a real porsche
On Oct 24, 2006, Analyst said:
This desire for empty status symbols is pathetic and speaks to the individuals own lack of any real interests or sense of self-worth. You lie to yourselves saying that you work hard so that you can play hard, but in reality, you work hard to eat up that time that you are incapable of filling with any meaningful activity or pursuit. You grasp at glitter, conspicuous consumption, and trends that others made cool long before you ever heard of them.
I hate working with you idiots.
On Oct 24, 2006, Mike said:
I love when people just hate on a guy because their jealous…”a boxster doesn’t impress me”…so what u got? “Car is rented”…got proof? You guys just have to look and/or make up something to make yourself feel better. Just accept what he’s got and move on…there is nothing controversial about this video. He did nothing wrong, it was his night out, code.tv followed him…end of story. Just shut up, you can’t judge people from a stupid site…I mean common sense people…
On Oct 24, 2006, Mike said:
a porsche is porsche…no matter what model you dumb ass.
On Oct 24, 2006, Anonymous said:
And since it is a business website…
For anyone that knows anything about Porsche - the Boxster SAVED Porsche from being eaten up by a huge company like Ford or GM
Yes you nitwits, its true.
On Oct 25, 2006, Anonymous said:
I just watched this again.
The car HAS red brakes signifying an S model with bigger than usual wheels. That would put his car in the price range starting AT LEAST, 57K. Not the 40K people are quoting in this blog. Apparently, people don’t know their Porsches too well.
I tried to price out a Boxster one time, and let’s just say Porsches aren’t normal - they have pages, and pages of options to send their cars well north of MSRP. Porsches are definitely not for poor people.
On Oct 31, 2006, ANON said:
I WORKED WITH AJ at the certain large i bank mentioned, and hes not an IBanking, HES BACK OFFICE, his parents gave him all of his money.
On Nov 1, 2006, Anonymous said:
Yeah AJ is a chief and so are all of you, abuddy sent me this in my email, i thought it was the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. We all work in Oil & Gas and dont have time for this bullshit, just thought id come by and post that you gus are fags……and “bankers ” shouldnt have this much time on their hands…….pussies
On Nov 2, 2006, Yeah sure said:
I worked with him too - and last time I recalled he wasn’t in an ops role by any means…seems that ANON doesn’t even know what back/mid/front office are.
For all of you here that do work wih him, I have a pretty damn good guess who ANON is…he’s tall, goofy Syracuse grad, almost got his ass kicked at a company party, and tried to hook-up with the resident Asian flirt of the floor after being turned down over and over again… a guy that happened to move on to “front office” after dealing with METRICS (WAY more “back office” then what people are saying A.J. does) by getting on his knees and going at it…
Thank God that canuck is away from us.
“Parents gave him all his money” — wahhh…my mommy didn’t buy me a Prada bag like the others when I was in HS…give me a break, some people that comment on here are a bunch of fags - headed by ANON himself. E-mail me, I can tell you who it is.
On Nov 2, 2006, Hello pete said:
For all the haters, we have no proof of their lifestyle. Right now, AJ’s looks pretty damn good to me..I’ll take it anyday over mine!
On Nov 2, 2006, Anon said:
Where is AJ anyway?
On Nov 3, 2006, Anonymous said:
Lots of jealous cats here….
On Nov 3, 2006, No Chance said:
Ah Ben - you were always jealous of him…a pity you resort to such immaturity
Syracuse finance/marketing bozos belong should be doing metrics work not IB - the company is so pathetic.
On Nov 3, 2006, AT said:
I walk by him on the way to the bathroom every day - AJ’s fucking hot but he never notices me or smiles at me
Because of that, I hate him!!!
On Nov 3, 2006, Anonymous said:
This kid is a douche bag - at the end of the day, he said “models and bottles” and he wasn’t joking… dbag
On Nov 6, 2006, Anonymous said:
Really catchy phrase, sums up big metro city nightlife IMO
On Nov 6, 2006, Cotton Eyed Joe said:
If I spent money on bottles, I’d rather have hot models next to me instead of sausage
On Nov 6, 2006, Anonymous said:
People don’t go out to these places to look at guys or hang-out with size 12 bitches. They go to find hot girls and usually hot girls are attracted to VIP sections and VIP sections are compromised of…
You guessed it… bottles
On Nov 6, 2006, Mousecat said:
People knocking models and bottles clearly have never had money to afford bottles or the finesse to sleep with models
On Nov 6, 2006, MM said:
At the end of the day - you are not A.J.
On Nov 6, 2006, Maggie said:
Driving a hot car, sleeping with hot girls and having money to buy bottles is as far as you can get from the term “douchebag”
Some of you are a bunch of twats
On Nov 7, 2006, Jimbo said:
AJ IS KING!
On Nov 9, 2006, Lisa said:
Where I can apply so I can be one of AJ’s girls?
On Nov 9, 2006, Anonymous said:
Screw that where can I apply to drive him around!
On Nov 9, 2006, Anonymous said:
You are all infatuated with the car, I am guessing he doesn’t live in the city, and therefore he is B & T and by definition a LOSER.
On Nov 10, 2006, Hedgie said:
I’m pretty sure I make way more than him, but I live in Greenwich. Lots of expensive cars you never see often in Manhattan. I could easily buy a place in the city but I want more space and quiet (not many 20,000 sq. ft. lofts in the city) Does that make me a loser?
On Nov 10, 2006, Curious Dude said:
When I think of B&T, I think of:
1) North Jersey and parts of Central Jersey
2) Staten Island (ironic that it’s one of the 5 boroughs)
3) Yonkers/Mount Vernon/Lower Cheap Westchester
I see B&T as less of a location-based phenomenon, and more of a mindset phenomenon.
On Nov 10, 2006, Hookie said:
If AJ was B&T, he’d be wearing a shirt 10 sizes too small, have jewelry around his neck, and have REALLY spiky hair. Not to mention an earring, possibly sweat pants, a headband and a Brooklyn accent…
On Nov 10, 2006, Anonymous said:
If I could drive a Porsche and hang out with models, I don’t care if I lived in Vermont!
On Nov 10, 2006, Crackcorn said:
There IS life outside of New York City people….
On Nov 10, 2006, Keyman said:
It’s obvious that the people STILL criticizing him a month after this video was posted are jealous/envious…
I wish I could do $200 cocktails and rock a car like that at 23
On Nov 10, 2006, Niner said:
If someone gave me the choice : live in the city, have no money to spend, live humbly
or
Live outside of the city, have plenty of money to spend to bang models and drive hot cars
I’d clearly choose the latter, no regrets.
On Nov 10, 2006, Flattie Pats said:
Who cares where he lives - I’d bang him in a heartbeat even if he lived in Amish Country!!!!!!!
On Nov 10, 2006, Anon said:
Bitch! I’m fascinated by his lifestyle AND his car!
On Jan 9, 2007, James Triggs said:
I think a European needs to step up to explain what it is about this video that rubs a lot of people the wrong way. You see, we Europeans believe in living the good life, but see no need to be so “in your face” (to use an American term) about it. So “balling” on Thursday night with “models and bottles” is great, actually using terms such as “balling” and “models and bottles” reeks of insecurity. Arrogance is so much more attractive when done subtly.
Regards,
UK Banker
On Jan 22, 2007, HedgeHog said:
This guy is an obvious douchebag. First of all he’s practically shooting himself in the foot if senior guys recognize him. At 23 he’s nothing but a flea at any bank, if he tries to flaunt his relatively meager pay publicly on the web he’ll likely suffer the same fate as other junior bankers that have done this.
Second, think about his pay for a second. People here are saying things like “I’d love to have all that”. If you’re an associate or higher you know you’re making more than this tool AJ. Analyst pay doesn’t have a wide range, you can assume it falls somewhere between $90k-$150k for the first year (closer to the lower end). Assuming AJ made $100k that works out to about $50k after federal, state, city taxes and other things. This is about $4k/month. Granted if he lives with his mom it’s pretty easy to buy a Porsche and live it up once a week in the clubs with $4k but it doesn’t leave you much. If you’re making mortgage or rental payments in Manhattan than you know right away that it either wasn’t his money that bought the car or he’s living on fumes after his costs.
The fact of the matter is if you have some guy who’s more senior level you can’t really get a sense of what they’re making. I know guys a few years out of b-school who are making $150k and others who are making $3mm. There is a much wider range down the road but analysts all make close to the same.
You, I, and any other banker on this site who is past the analyst level makes more than AJ. The difference is you didn’t want to work just to make car payments when you were 23. Unless AJ’s parents gave him money he has no liquidity. That much I can assure you.
On Feb 16, 2007, AT said:
He’s not an analyst anymore, word is he was promoted
On Feb 16, 2007, Jane Crackcorn said:
Definitely has enough cash to make me happy! I love him, wish we saw more of him. Looks like we have some liberal haters here
On Feb 16, 2007, meanjoemoomoo said:
when me and joe moomoo roll out with the top down,
so much money, damn i can’t stop know…
On Feb 23, 2007, outtie said:
awesome comments. but he’s got to lose the ring and gray shirt. and ugly face.
On Mar 1, 2007, man said:
he’s some stupid fordham tool that couldn’t get a real buy-side or even banking job so has to front in this regard
On Mar 6, 2007, Supeman said:
I’m up late working on this brief (in law school). Thought I would take a break and take a look at what everyone thought of this. AJ’s actions do add a little mystique to Wall Street. It’s funny how people think that it’s great to work on Wall Street for the models and bottles lifestyle.
On Nov 23, 2007, brian said:
you motherfuckers talk about anything else besides money. what a bunch of losers
On Jan 13, 2008, Anonymous said:
wstrt is not that simplistic, but then again sure it is not uncommon practise either. ppl are diff, obviously some embrace illusion to be the real deal, it might be tempting and rel. easy since lot of grl unfortunatley are that naif to value $$$$$$ over sincere interest. then again you gotta do what you gotta do Its all about eat and destroy or share and love
On Jan 28, 2008, lawyer said:
A Porsche Boxster?! Obviously can’t afford a Carrera. Enough said.
What a prick.
On Sep 25, 2008, William said:
Wow, this guy looks like such a loser. I bet he had to buy those girls to go out with him; they ain’t even that hot. He’s probably like 5′6″ the tall girl is probably 5′8″ that sooo pathetic. The sadest part is that he won’t get laid tonight.
On Oct 15, 2008, Banker said:
Alfred castaneda