Ivy League Dummies
By BankersBall on Sep 19, 2007 in Cube Life
Well, well, well. Turns out the higher a college ranks on US News & World Report, the more ignorant its students are, at least when it comes to civics (the Monroe Doctrine, anyone … anyone?) There’s a name for these vaunted institutions, the likes of which include Princeton, Yale, U Penn, Cornell and Duke — elite centers of “negative learning.”
The findings, in a recent study by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, are pretty grim, namely: “some of the most expensive universities, with the highest paid presidents, are among the worst-performing in the country regarding the teaching of America’s history and institutions to their undergraduate students. These universities, which also receive some of the largest government subsidies, include the University of Pennsylvania, Cornell, Yale, Princeton, and Duke.”
In particular, though Ivy League students know more about about civics going in, they basically do not add to their knowledge during college. Which seems to make sense given a typical college student’s trajectory.
Leave it to one of our own to stick up for the Ivy Leaguers, however. Eric Foner, a prof at Columbia cages “the study of history has changed enormously,” Mr. Foner said. “It’s become much more broad and diverse. The study of facts about particular battles has diminished, but maybe students are in a better position to answer questions about the abolition of slavery.” (NYSun)
So there. We’re still smarter.


On Sep 19, 2007, Hans said:
Who gives a shit about America’s history and institutions? It’s about getting top talent, and that usually means focusing on international students.
On Sep 21, 2007, Ditto said:
Who cares about civics for crying out loud???
Bankers Ball is bloody boring.
On Sep 21, 2007, BankersBall said:
At least we’re not wannabe brits.
On Sep 24, 2007, AZ said:
Who the heck participates in studies like these at college anyway? People who think its cool to memorize a one-page civics cheat-sheet, and then want to show off this talent, that’s who. Which hopefully no one at a prestigious school wants to do.
On Sep 24, 2007, Lumbergh said:
Ivy League schools are and always were a scam. The quality of learning there is no better, and in some cases worse, than at a good state school. Have fun working your asses off to pay off your college debt.
On Nov 25, 2007, yussi1870 said:
Duke is not an Ivy League school
On Sep 29, 2008, Theman said:
Actually, I paid less for an Ivy league education than what I would’ve paid at a public school due to nice grats. On a side note, I’d rather know how to do calculus than to know who commanded a battle 200 years ago, for obviously reasons.