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If an in-person course just can’t happen for you, you might want to consider Wall Street Prep, which offers both in-person training as well as software and virtual interview prep.
The self-study software ($499 for the “complete” valuation and financial modeling pack; $199 for just financial modeling)
Courses are just four days, compared to about four-weeks for rivals providers like the Investment Banking Institute and take place in New York, San Francisco, Toronto and Calgary. You can pick a single day for $469 or the 4-day affair for $1,799.
Virtual interview prep is $99 for 3 hours and covers “open-ended questions, close-ended questions, anecdotal questions, skills questions and rhetorical questions (just kidding for that last one).





On Jan 30, 2008, Andrei said:
Hello everybody,
I have registered for this Wall Street Prep program. It seems a nice complement to a finance education or the CFA. There is plenty of information on LBO’s, M&A’s , and so forth. I doubt it’s usefulness for those already in the field but if you are just graduating or trying to break in, I would say it’s worth it. The price isn’t bad and it’s always a nice reference.
By the way, if you do choose to purchase the program, enter my coupon code REF8755 for a 15% discount.
On Feb 22, 2008, Mit said:
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On Feb 24, 2008, Mike said:
I have used the program before with a friend but now purchased it for myself (as I wanted the certification). The format of the program makes the learning process easy to follow and I hope to be finished in 2 months (I have heard that it takes about 80 hours to complete). I agree with Andrei that it’s a nice complement to the CFA and definitely a good value.
If you decide to get it, my reference code is: REF9202 (15% savings)
On Feb 27, 2008, Peter said:
Thanks Mike!
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Hi!
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On Mar 12, 2008, CP said:
Based on recommendation of a lot of people, I decided to purchase the Premium Package which included both Financial and Valuation Modeling. I am currently doing Financial Modeling. The course is indeed easy to follow because it walks you through step-by-step.
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On Mar 18, 2008, phil said:
you’re courses are a joke. btw, we are well aware that all these “codes” are just one dude trying to act like shelling out 500 bucks for a piece of trash is a bargain. Get a job at a bank Feldman, they’ll train ya.
On Mar 30, 2008, dave c said:
For those who have the premium package, is it possible to share it among different people or do their files have weird protection against this. Also, are the readings in the form of a physical book or are they online/PDF?
Thanks
On Mar 31, 2008, Hil said:
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On Apr 1, 2008, eva said:
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On Apr 4, 2008, John said:
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On Apr 13, 2008, Riley said:
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On Apr 15, 2008, kyle said:
has anyone looked into other programs - Training the Street or ibtraining.com?
On Apr 16, 2008, Big Baller said:
There is not even a need to take a prep course. I am selling some water that, if you drink it from the source, will certainly make up for all your years of loserdom, douchebagness and mental retardation.
On Apr 17, 2008, ysk said:
Does anyone know of a book that will cover similar simple model material?
On Apr 24, 2008, John said:
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On Apr 28, 2008, PR said:
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On May 18, 2008, luckyfreespirit said:
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On May 23, 2008, JA said:
Giving it the old college try, will let you know how it fares (unbiased)
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On May 26, 2008, InvestmentBanker said:
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On May 27, 2008, Fra79 said:
Hi, I’m going to buy the Wall Street Prep. Someone could describe me the software details (cd, file, book)?
many thanks
On May 28, 2008, may said:
hi. Fra79, i can sell that to you if u need..at a lower price
On May 29, 2008, Fra79 said:
Tnx may, please can you describe me the software details?
On May 29, 2008, John said:
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On May 29, 2008, Landry said:
Hey guys, I have an engineering background and will start BSchool this Fall. I’m looking forward to switch into iB but have only basic knowledge in Finance. Would the WSP be a great help for me? I also ordered the Domodoran on Valuation. Are they complementary? Does somebody have an unused REF-Code? Tnx.
On May 30, 2008, jeff said:
I share Landry’s question
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On Jun 2, 2008, Anonymous said:
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On Jun 4, 2008, IB Student said:
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The referral code above can be used by multiple users.
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Hi
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On Jun 27, 2008, huh said:
You people are idiots! This is a complete waste of time. 1) the firm will train you better than these so-called “prep” courses will; 2) if you’re trying to get a headstart, there is free material online, or grab a Vault book; 3) ask a buddy/referral/contact in the industry for material, if you don’t know anybody, you are well behind the game and shouldn’t even be inquiring about Wall Street; 4) these “posters” are the same douchebag posting over and over again, he or she works here!!
On Jul 5, 2008, Mathproof said:
TO HUH:
If WSP and the Investment Banking Institute are not good, then why have all of the top Ivy league business schools used there services?
On Jul 7, 2008, Natalie said:
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On Jul 8, 2008, jscricket said:
Selling the WSP package for much cheaper than the $500 retail price. Contact me at jscricket@gmail.com if interested.
On Jul 10, 2008, Aarie said:
Hi, is anybody willing to sell their package, please let me know, I would like to buy it! please email me at aariegold@gmail.com
Thanks!
On Jul 11, 2008, wharton said:
No Ivy Leagues use their services. Yeah, sure, Huntsman Hall is just rife with WSP. Pssh. You have to be kidding me. Man, the worst part about this website is the shameless self-promotion. Every single positive remark on this blog is written by staff at WSP. “Hi, I just bought it and it’s better than a Goldman Bonus, here’s my discount code” etc etc. What a load of horsecrap.
On Jul 11, 2008, Princeton_2008 said:
Hello, I purchased Premium package, material is useful to get a ahead start in modelling, and also useful for personal use.
*USE THE REF# FOR 15% DISCOUNT* = REF11437
My question for the contrarians?, if you think it isnt worth it, how do you find time to read the blogs on WSP and comment?
On Jul 14, 2008, shill said:
Mathproof, it’s clear you work at WSP. It’s “their services” not “there services” you moron.
NO ivy league, or rather any of the top 30 universities use these services.
Additionally, it’s a major red flag when THIS article has more posts than any other article on this website, and those posts are all from people writing “golly gee, this thing is amazing, here is my discount code!”
On Jul 17, 2008, wharton said:
Princeton, that comment literally could not make less sense.
Let’s examine:
Your argument is: He thinks WSP is crap, people that think things are crap do not have time to read blogs on aforementioned crappy things, therefore he must not really think it is crap, meaning it must be great.
Flaws of your rationale: Just because someone thinks something is worth less than a ketchup popsicle to a woman in white gloves DOES NOT MEAN THEY DON’T HAVE TIME TO COMMENT ON THE SHITTY PRODUCT. Hence the nature of consumerism. Word of mouth? Anyone ever buy something because others said it was great? Or the opposite? Rhetoric aside, according to your logic, no one would ever badmouth a product, simply because they “don’t have time.” Therefore, every product ever produced would never be badmouthed, and according to your assinine theory, would be great.
If that is the case, I have numerous “products” I would love for you to buy. One in particular is what I like to call “Bankers Ball Commenting and Shameless Promotion for Those that Can’t make a Buck cleaning Toilets (or BBCSPTTCMBCT).” Check it out, my reference code is REF12346!!
Everyone. I repeat. I have seen the WSP shit, and I mean shit, from a State Schooler who let it collect dust. It is worthless. It is akin to letting your stoner friend Tad go to an econ lecture in your stead (while he is a pottery major), and then trusting his notes.
WSP owners, founders, shameless promoters, just beat it and let people comment how they wish to. No more reference codes. We are wise to it. If someone is stupid enough to pay 500 dollars for the horseshit that you peddle, then they will gladly pay 425.
The people who defend WSP on this blog are the owners, and they live in their in-laws basement in Brookline MA. Their spelling, flawed logic, broken English should be evidence enough of their lack of training, intelligence quotient and talent.
Checkmate bitches.
On Jul 17, 2008, Sr. Excel Monkey said:
Baaaazing
On Jul 17, 2008, Mathproof said:
To Shill:
Everyone makes grammer mistakes once in a while. Normally, my grammatical transgressions occur late at night while playing on the net. As for whether I’m a moron, one of my degrees is in theoretical mathematics–undergraduate. I seem to just excel at reading and constructing mathematical proofs. Oh yeah, I don’t work for WSP. I actually work for a private wealth management boutique. I do all of the investment research among other things. I do well financially, but I have always wanted to provide solutions to corporations. Hence, anything that will help me distinquish myself (and isn’t too expensive) is something with which I would be interested.
Why would I be interested in such a product? Will it make me an associate immediately? Of course not. What I do expect is to obtain experience playing with Excel models related to solving corporate finance problems. I expect that when a recruiter scans my resume that there is evidence that I have made an attempt to prepare myself for an entry level corporate analyst position. Once there, I have no doubt that the internal training that I will receive will be easier because of my previous efforts.
You will notice that I haven’t defended WSP. I haven’t purchased it yet. I just simply asked a question. If no Ivy League schools use the product, then you should report WSP immediately to those wonderful institutions. While you’re performing that public service, you should also inform the CFA institute that a similar unauthorized assocation has occurred with regard to “their” brand.
To Wharton:
I assume by your screen name that you attended Wharton. For that, you should be proud. If my assumption is correct, then I have the following comments regarding your entry on July 17, 2008:
–Why do you descend into ad hominem attacks? My expectation is that a Wharton graduate would know that such a tactic is a breach of logic which is ironic considering that your “attempting” to deconstruct Princeton’s argument logically.
–My Complex Variables professor couldn’t write or speak very well. He would begin sentences with “therefore” and place “coordinating conjunctions next to subbordination conjunctions” in a sentence which is a complete grammatical faux pas. The point is that the professor was not stupid, but rather was just better at math than any other critical subject. Hence, if you don’t have the discipline to refrain from ad hominem attacks, you should at least learn the difference between necessary and sufficent conditions and apply them correctly.
–Enron was populated with Ivy League graduates; and the current President also is an Ivy League MBA.
In summary, I would suggest that detractors of WSP or any other program give actually reasons for your disapproval. Anyway one can say that they don’t like a product. There is nothing particularly cerebral about that approach.
I am going to purchase the product in December. Once I finish it and obtain the certification, then I will be able to compete for boutique level entry positions because those firms can justify paying me less since I didn’t attend an Ivy League school.
Q.E.D.
On Jul 18, 2008, wharton said:
With a degree in theoretical mathematics-undergraduate, you should try for a hedge fund. But given your thesaurus-laden journey into the banal, it is no small wonder that you are in private wealth management.
I did go to Wharton- undergraduate, and that alone makes me smarter and more capable than you. I work at a BB Ibank in Corp. Fin.
My SATs and IQ are higher than yours (I have no doubt). My financial, and most certainly mathematic wherewithall are far superior to yours. I don’t care what your major was at Fargo University of Phoenix Online, I went through a far more rigourous mathematic curriculum than you did. So save the corollary bullshit. And for god’s sake save the condesencion. You don’t wear it well.
People who have attended Ivys, and work at Goldman have feathers in their caps for a reason: they earned it. Most of them anyway. But I guess it’s your role to decide which ones have and which ones haven’t, and gripe about it all along the way. In any case, this isn’t Good Will Hunting in that you get the girl and thrive you maverick renegade you. But it is Good Will Hunting in the way that you will be serving my kids fries on our ski trip.
In the meantime, have fun trying to catch up.
Note: WSP is worthless simply because it is overpriced and you can learn just as much watching Jim Cramer and reading a handbook on financial modeling for idiots. Occam’s Razor.
I believe last note I wrote I said checkmate. That means game over. See you at Mickey D’s captain retail.
On Jul 18, 2008, wordup said:
Wharton - well said.
Mathproof - calm down buddy. No one takes this seriously, but let me give you a clue as to how this works. This site is simply for amusement, and it gives finance people a small dose away from their work during the day. No current banker or anyone seriously considering banking would ever use WSP to gain a position.
The people on this site are just messing with you because you are most likely the owner of WSP, or a salesperson who gets credit for the reference codes posted. If you’re not, then one of the many posters (probably the same one using different ID’s) that keep giving a reference code is. If anything, the regular readers of this site are probably annoyed at how a site intended for our amusement has become a late-night infomercial for a product that no one would ever use. Again, don’t take anything too seriously because we’re bankers and we’re better than everybody else.
Owner of WSP - the quickest way to turn off potential customers is to inundate them with fake testimonials and reference codes, it’s not fooling anybody, let it go, please, just let it go.
Everbody else - Now I’ve become annoyed, and because it’s a Friday and a slow day (and I don’t feel like working), I’m gonna go on every product review site on the net I can find just to talk sh*t about WSP, how it’s overpriced, and how it ruined my life and cause my divorce.
On Jul 18, 2008, Mathproof said:
Wharton:
Good morning! This is fun. I can’t respond properly as I’m at work. Additionally, I’m writing from Seattle, so you will probably be sound asleep from an exciting night at the Country Club before my response is delivered. I do apologize, but the three hour difference does place me at a disadvantage.
On Jul 18, 2008, Sr. Excel Monkey said:
You are both tools.
Fact is, I’ve done the WSP course and the certification means shit. If someone ever put that on their resume and interviewed with me for our Analyst position, I would probably laugh him out of the room.
Wharton, go finish your comp set.
Mathproof, theoretical mathematics is just a fancy name for majoring in mental masturbation - go find a tube sock.
On Jul 18, 2008, Mathproof said:
To Monkey:
If the certification is worthless, then the WSP course is worthless by implication. So Monkey, why did you take it? Additionally, if the program is without merit, then why would a person with it on their resume obtain an interview with your firm? You do see the inconsistency with everything that you’ve said.
So, if a tier III university graduate can deconstruct everything you’ve just said–oh so quickly, how easily will the Wharton grad correct your inane statements?
As for mathematics, you don’t have finance without it. My only regret is that I didn’t study both concurrently. I’m resolving that issue, after which I’ll do just fine in coporate finance.
Oh, did you say that you have an analyst position available?
On Jul 18, 2008, wharton said:
TO HUH:
If WSP and the Investment Banking Institute are not good, then why have all of the top Ivy league business schools used there services?
= Additionally, if the program is without merit, then why would a person with it on their resume obtain an interview with your firm?
These are by far, by lack of a better word, the worst “arguments” ever made. They are illogical. It is an abortion of syllogism.
I am only pointing this out because I truly believe you may think they make sense, in which case, you’re a big dumb stupidhead.
true story.
On Jul 18, 2008, wharton said:
My mistake, “My question for the contrarians?, if you think it isnt worth it, how do you find time to read the blogs on WSP and comment?” = “Additionally, if the program is without merit, then why would a person with it on their resume obtain an interview with your firm?”…..that is the parallel I wanted to point out to you. It’s kind of like saying “That car is blue? But I own an ottoman. So how coudl it be blue?”
On Jul 18, 2008, dimitri the stud said:
I somehow stumbled upon this gem of a conversation while looking up Wall St. Prep based upon a referral from a highly intelligent colleague of mine with 2 Ivy degrees (for what it’s worth I have one myself, although it seems quite petty (and lame) to brag to strangers about one’s degrees, job, and/or purported intelligence).
But I digress, this cat Wharton sounds like none other than Dimitri the stud. Dimitri is that you with a new alias, Wharton???:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acERZQIAjUk
On Jul 18, 2008, Mathproof said:
To Wharton:
The only thing equivalent with those two conditional statements are the antecedents. The consequents are completely different. Hence, your parallel argument fail. Furthermore, the fact that there is a question mark at the end of both means that they are not arguments by defintition. I’m delighted that you took a intro to logic course at Wharton, but you clearly didn’t master the subject matter–pity.
In your attempt to use the reputation of your school as a way to intimidate people who did attend an Ivy League, you have shown yourself to be in the George “W.” Bush category of Ivy League graduates.
With regard to critiquing someones reasoning skills, it isn’t enough to say that something is illogical, you have to prove it–assuming you can; afterall, you are after all “just” a business school graduate.
There isn’t a single detractor who has given one reason why this program isn’t good. If you really are “talented” bankers, then you would be able to provide an example of how the program fails to proffer the essential tools associated with a particular corporate finance problem. That hasn’t happen.
For everyone who has been watching me tan Wharton’s ass intellectually, I’m going to deliver the ‘coup de grace’ of Wharton’s personal entry to me early this morning. The purpose is to humiliate him. He deserves it. Once I’m finished, his Wharton degree will be something for him to hide, because it will remind him of how he failed to live up to the potential of that great institution.
At this time, I must adjourn. The Chinese buffet is having sprimp scampi today. Yum.
On Jul 18, 2008, wharton said:
If you say so buddy. If you wanted to engage in discussions of Strunk and White’s ‘The Elements of Style’ (go ahead, wikipedia it), the wonderful brushstrokes of Bosch, or Deontology or Utilitarianism or whatever, then so be it. Please prattle on oh state school wealth manager who leaves for scampi (yum!) at 3pm PDT.
You could always go on “tanning my ass intellectually,” but I’ve got another idea:
Go get your fucking shinebox.
WSP sucks.
On Jul 18, 2008, Mathproof said:
Wharton:
If I waited until 4pm, then I would have to pay the dinner price. Is that what you would do?
My job title is investment analyst. Besides the reseach I do for the owner’s clients, I solve open ended mathematical finance problems related to portfolio management. You would be amazed at how often the standard rules don’t apply. Hence, by having an extreme mathematical education as well as the fun stuff that I’ve learned by being involved in the CFA program, I proceed with little difficulty. So, this third tier state school graduate is doing just fine. After being wildly successful in the wealth management field, it is time for me to come get your job.
I like the Shrunk and White book. We used it in my public high school. Did you first encounter it at Wharton?
If I thought that you had an original thought regarding the philosophers that you mentioned, I might engage you in a robust debate. That is always fun. Unfortunately, you remind me of the Kevin Kline character in “A Fish Called Wanda.” He read Neitzsche but didn’t understand it.
Now, I’m going home to my luxury flat in Belltown. Sometime between now and midnight PST, I’m going to deliver the coup de grace that I promised. Until that time, I hope that you contemplate what a mistake you’ve made in underestimating someone just because that person attended a state school; especially one who has exposed you as a troglodyte who just happened to attend the greatest business school on the planet–as an undergrad.
Cheers!
On Jul 19, 2008, Mathproof said:
Wharton:
I have really enjoyed tanning your ass, but I’m not quite done. For all who have been spectators, the following comments are in response to Wharton’s first entry on 7/18/2008.
As a public service, I will demonstrate exactly how to deconstruct logically Wharton’s ill composed statements.
Paragraph I–
The ability to speak well and explain important concepts is not specific to wealth management. In fact, in BB Ibanking, to move from the analyst role to that of an associate requires being able to pitch deals to potential clients and close them. So, your attempt at yet another ad hominem attack has failed. You inadvertantly confirmed that once I obtain the modelling skills that I need, then the transition from analyst to associate should be rather easy for me. Again, the personal attacks are informal fallacies which represents a class of illogical tactics.
Paragraph II–
Your statement implies that attending Wharton is a necessary condition for being smarter and more capable. There are two logical errors and I will address them independently.
First, one of your implicit assumptions is that only the best talent is admitted to Ivy League schools. As a counterexample, wealthy alumni can often have their intellectually challenged children admitted to their alma mater; yet, this contradicts your implicit assumption.
Second, assuming that attendance at an Ivy League makes a person more capable than their state school counterparts. From the following website:
http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2006/09/ivy-league-ceos.html
Dr. Mankiw has a link to an Alan Kreuger article which has the following quote:
“That you go to college is more important than where you go. Find a school whose academic strengths match your interests and which devotes resources to instruction in those fields. Recognize that your own motivation, ambition and talents will determine your success more than the college name on your diploma.”
Wharton, if you are aware of the intellectual achievements of these two gentlemen, then you know that your position is untenable. Your statement has been shown to be false.
Paragraph III
You studied undergraduate business. Hence, you never took a rigorous class in mathematics. By contrast, I took 35 classes in mathematics (including the master’s core classes)where I was required to prove every theorem and not just learn how to do algebra on calculus symbols. There is a reason you chose business: you didn’t have the intellect for engineering and definately not any theoretical math class. So, be happy that you learned to finger a calculator, play algebra with calculus symbols for business students, and to use the normal distribution table. In short, if we were to compete in the area of reading and doing mathematical proofs, I would crush you.
As for finance, you have undergraduate level knowledge. I’m currently in level III of the CFA program; so, I doubt that you know any more than me. Remember,Wharton, most esteemed schools have their reputations because of the research of their faculty as well as their graduate programs. So, your undergraduate experience has nothing to do with what has made Wharton great.
You lose again.
Paragraph IV–
I have no problem with Ivy League schools or people who go there, especially since I have no problem distinquishing myself in their presense. Just look at how I have completely outclassed you in both writing and thinking. If you hadn’t admitted that you attended Wharton, you could have been mistaken for a junior college graduate.
As for your reference to Good Will Hunting, I already get the girl. That has something to do with being able to afford an exlusive flat in Belltown and being devastingly handsome. Now, do you really think that a woman would leave a bar with you after what I just did to you? Luckily, you have the benefit of suffering your defeat in the privacy of your own home. If we had been in a bar, you would have wilted in front of everyone. Furthermore, your propensity for vulgar language in the presence of defeat would have only compounded your problem. Again, most weath managers make more than analysts; so, how did you conclude that I would be providing wait service to you and your family? What is most likely to happen is the following: your job will be outsourced to India; your blow up doll will pop under the weight of your angry thrust over having lost your job; and finally you’ll end up working temp. doing data entry analysis for the Indian company producing the deal books for your former employer. So, Occam’s razor in your case would have implied skipping Wharton and buying the financial modelling book for Idiots and listening to Jim Cramer. You really need to follow your own advise.
Paragraph V
If you are representative of the inhouse competition, then whatever catch up that is necessary won’t take long.
Paragraph VI
I like Jim Cramer. He is definately smart, but he doesn’t know anything about modelling. As for a book on financial modelling, most deal with modelling within the context of a single business; so, many of the topics needed for investment banking are not covered. For that reason, your statement is wrong.
If your problem with WSP is just price, then you have just confirmed that the content is good. Hence, all that people need to do is find used copies
In summary, you have lost in a hugh way. There isn’t a single thing that you have communicated that I haven’t debunked. Always remember, that a third tier university graduate did this to you.
You checked no one mate.
On Jul 19, 2008, Mathproof said:
To wordup:
Hi. I actually don’t own the product yet, but I intend to purchase it in December like I said. If you look at my entries, I have not endorsed WSP at all. Hence, I’m neither a sales person, nor do I feel the need to defend my purchase. Actually, if I could get away from work, I would attend the Investment Banking Institute. As a substitute, this product will be fine.
I think the phrase for which you are looking is “there is no need to be so serious.” My question is how you could conclude that I was angry. The only emotional content is in Wharton’s vulgarity. It is my understanding that educated people find robust debate stimulating. That’s what I’m doing here. Of course, my original intend was to obtain objective feed back from past users of the product. As the band U2 sang, ” I still haven’t found what I’m looking for.”
So, why would real bankers visit an inane site about banking in order to escape banking? How is that an escape?
I’m not sure where you work (New York?), but in Seattle were there isn’t alot of high finance occuring, experience is key. Most small/med size firms just don’t have the resources of a Goldman/Black Rock to teach new hires what they didn’t learn in business school. So what is a highly educated person to do? Should I hope that some firm will just decided do me a favor? I think that would qualify as a pipe dream. So, besides the degree in econ and math, I’m working my way through the CFA program and I plan to supplement it with WSP, because even if it is overpriced, it is well within my price range.
I don’t understand why you Ivy League types have a problem with people trying to better their situation. When I found a resource that allowed me to read and do mathematical proofs, I told everyone that I knew. When I found someone moving in the wrong direction, I showed them the right direction with apecific plan and set of resources. I don’t know why there is so much insecurity on this site.
Anyway, I need coffee. Since this site is for bankers who want to escape cube life, I’ll depart until I join the club. Bye guys!
On Jul 21, 2008, wharton said:
To Wordup: Well said as well.
To Mathproof: We understand you are salty. In the future, nobody knows where Belltown is, but by all means, congratulations for being such a baller.
“So what is a highly educated person to do?”
Answer: You haven’t proven that you’re highly educated, only that you have a penchant for watery and flowery prose and a whole lotta time on those little spindly hands. I say go to law school, they’ll teach you how to be concise. I’m sure Washington has a great State law school somewhere. But you could always be consistent and get the degree online, much like your undergrad, wsp, boyfriend, etc..etc..
We are just trying to have fun here. The posts that serve as infomercials (WSP, Michael Page International, Global Design Whatever) are insults to our intelligence.
This shit:
So, why would real bankers visit an inane site about banking in order to escape banking? How is that an escape?
….is stupid. Your like every one’s annoying little sister, parading around with a completely over-inflated sense of self-worth. Accomplish something. I hate to say shit like this, but from the bottom of my little heart, you are out of your league, and outclassed. I know people hate to hear that, and I really feel for you, but you should have tried harder when you were younger, or been born more capable.
To be “real,” you have no chance at getting into a bank: 1) you are obviously a gigantic homo, and completely unlikable, 2) by the time you “fine tune” those other skills and try submitting your resume for a banking job you will be too old for an analyst position, and completely unqualified for anything higher up the chain, 3) you sure as hell can’t apply now, it’s a bloodbath. 4) let me reiterate, you are unlikable, you write like shit (WHOOPS! No one told you?), your arguments (excuse the pun) are one big circular reference.
“I don’t understand why you Ivy League types have a problem with people trying to better their situation.” “I don’t know why there is so much insecurity on this site.”
No problem, just don’t express your opinion. Ever.
No insecurity. I promise. We just like forcing the ol’ shit sandwich (OOP! Vulgarity! Someone call the fun police and the rhetoric counsel!) into your craw when you speak.
Never use the word robust.
Good luck with the CFA.
You will never, ever work at a good firm. I promise.
WSP sucks.
Ramma Lamma Ding Dong, you’re retarded.
On Jul 21, 2008, wharton said:
Oh, and by the by, to the WSP employees/owners:
You guys are a bunch of fags. How those REVs stacking up? We up y/y? Your CapIQ business description and founder bios are hilarious by the way.
If you want to give Bballers a discount, just put one up. No need for the false posts every two days.
On Jul 21, 2008, Mathproof said:
Wharton:
O.K, I’ll lighten up, you guys just want to have fun. Besides, everyone knows that I’ve won. Thee is no point in belaboring the obvious. So, I’ll comments on the “Essential Wharton.”
Why should I go to law school when I can do math? There is no need. Besides, I make so much more money than lawyers(non-Ivy one of course.)
I’m sure that I have proven that I’m highly educated, just not in ibanking.
Wharton said:
To be “real,” you have no chance at getting into a bank:…
1.for a banking job you will be too old for an analyst position, and
You will never, ever work at a good firm. I promise.
2.completely unqualified for anything higher up the chain
3) you sure as hell can’t apply now, it’s a bloodbath
Mathproof:
I like to be honest; so, when you have something of merit to say, then I’ll respectfully answer. With regard to…
1. I suspect that I will get a job as an analyst; however, I know that it will most likely be a boutique/mid size level firm. That’s fine with me. I’ve always made alot of money and I’ll continue to do so.
2. I understand that you have to work as an analyst first; so, if I don’t then your statement is sound.
3. I’ve heard. I’m busy until 2010 anyway.
That will give me time to finish my master’s in computational finance.
If you had said that I wouldn’t become an associate, then I could understand that. It is my understanding that associate positions are for people with MBAs from (Ivy+Stanford) schools. So, unless I want an MBA and can get into one of those schools, then your assessment is sound.
Wharton wrote:
Accomplish something. I hate to say shit like this, but from the bottom of my little heart, you are out of your league, and outclassed. I know people hate to hear that, and I really feel for you, but you should have tried harder when you were younger, or been born more capable.
Mathproof responds:
Have you been watching House? I remember that he said something like that in season two. Of course, he said that to a ambulance driver and you’re saying it to someone who studied a more rigorous degree than yours. Oh well, at least I’m convinced you to use complete sentences.
Wharton wrote:
No insecurity. I promise.
Mathproof responded:
Right. The only reason that I’m interested in ibanking is for the modelling experience. I plan to use my math background as well as the CFA to work in some capital markets job at an institutional investor. It might be nice to consult with companies who need to hedge risk with derivatives. That is one example. Of course, there are many different departments and many opportunities.
Wharton wrote:
But you could always be consistent and get the degree online…
Mathproof responded:
That is a great idea. I’m waiting until Wharton launches it’s online executive MBA. I’ll put you down as a reference.
Wharton wrote:
your arguments (excuse the pun) are one big circular reference.
Mathproof responded:
C’mon, you know that isn’t true.
Wharton wrote:
Never use the word robust.
Mathproof responded:
I live in Seattle.That is just one of those words people use.
Wharton wrote:
Good luck with the CFA.
Mathproof responded:
Thanks.
Mathproof responded:
C’mon, you know that’s not true.
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